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How To Repair Egr Tube

cracked EGR tube? Here's how to set up! by crzyone
Started on : 06-24-2004 07:39 PM
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Final postal service past : WHEELIE on 07-12-2004 07:29 PM

Jun 24th, 2004

crzyone
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From: Alberta, Canada
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Hey at that place, I just reinstalled my engine and constitute that I had a badly cracked EGR tube where information technology goes into the intake. I went to the local automobile parts shop and bought a tube of putty called "Steely" mady by a visitor chosen U-Fix-It Yous basically cut off as much of the puty as yous demand, need it with your fingers (there are 2 parts to the putty that mix when you need it that arrive harden). I rolled it into a serpent shape, put it around the cleft on the egr tube, press hard all around and washed! it hardens very difficult and is supposidly good till 300 degrees.

The stuff is a "steel reinforced epoxy" of some sort. Actually works well and is completely hard later an hour. My car runs fine, I'll permit everyone know if it somewhen cracks again. Cracking for a $v tube of putty. Still have plenty left over to do iv or 5 more EGR tubes

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Doug85GT
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I hate to say it but that EGR tube is going to get hotter than 300 deg. You may want to consider a unlike fix.

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fierobrian
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Originally posted by Doug85GT:

I detest to say it but that EGR tube is going to get hotter than 300 deg. You may desire to consider a dissimilar set.

the stuff i use quick -steel is good to over 500 and i accept used information technology on a egr tube and it works for a few years then it start to get one-time and cbrake away

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Jun 25th, 2004

88GTNeverfinished
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Good luck with that.

Been in that location, done it. It will fail soon and it's a huge vacuum leak..

When they crevice, cake off or supersede is the just solution. You lot'll encounter.

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fierobrian
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Originally posted by 88GTNeverfinished:

Practiced luck with that.

Been at that place, done it. Information technology will fail soon and it'southward a huge vacuum leak..

When they fissure, block off or replace is the only solution. You'll see.

i concord to replace information technology simply sometimes you just have 1 car that runs and no money for a few weeks it volition work .or get a f-body one for a few bucks at a boneyard. i keep that quick steel stuff around it is handy to have to fix cracks in the plastic mounting holes (had to set up some yesterday )and many more than everyday matter 20 year erstwhile cars accept become incorrect

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F13R0GRRL85
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From: SilverSpring, MD Us
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I tried JB Weld on my tube upon finding a fissure. It held for a week. I was at a stoplight, and the idle shot up to 3500 RPM and wouldn't go downwardly. I was only a couple of blocks from dwelling, merely it really startled me. I looked for the crusade, and establish the repair had split up in half, and the crack was twice as big. : (
I replaced the tube.
JBW Weld is besides rigid for an area like that, i suppose. Or did the heat compromise information technology? Don't people patch engine blocks with this stuff?
<shrug>

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luvsdonuts
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From: New York
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No I've never patched a engine block with JB weld......just there is a very simple mod if y'all accept the time to look it up that lets you use current (and a whole lot cheaper) GM EGR tubes on the Fiero. Takes a 60 minutes or to to complete depending on your skill level and works out quite well. No more PRICEY Fiero EGR tubes yeah!!!!!!!!

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crzyone
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Well two days later and probibly 100 kilometers city driving the patch is belongings great. There was even some spirited driving in there where the motor got pretty warm and its still belongings. Being steel reinforced epoxy I'thousand hoping information technology holds, but if non I have a tube off of my LT1 that I can use. Simply didn't feel like pulling my upper manifold off.

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88GTNeverfinished
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From: Pleasanton, CA
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Mine lasted for a couple weeks patched. I replaced it with a f body tube. You don't demand to remove the plenum. Y'all can get at those bolts with a 1/four" drive socket and very small 1/4" swivel head driver. a socket wrench is too large. crafstman makes i the looks similar a very small breaker bar that gets in there nicely

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Jun 26th, 2004

Dennis LaGrua
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Non to criticize your option of repair method but I do not believe that the "ring aid" repair that yous used on your EGR tube volition final for long.
If you don't have the money to invest in a new tube, become to the junkyards and look at the F bodied cars with the sixty* V6. Many of these, especially those on the former three.1L will adapt and the price is jump to be low. You could too take the tube off and have it affix welded or braze weld information technology yourself. Mig welding might also work only on rut cycled metal, mig isn't normally recommended.
Several years agone I braze welded an EGR tube back together and it held fine. While I practise believe that a new tube is the best fix, at that place are many alternatives that tin can exist used for a successful set when funds are low.

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crzyone
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I live 2 hours from the nearest junkyard and I wanted to try this. Non until I posted what I had done did I hear bad things virtually patching it. If it fails I volition get another tube, unproblematic. And so far its property up and its been hot outside with lots of city and highway driving, even some rough gravel, all the same holding.

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Jul 2nd, 2004

crzyone
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Well for anyone that is interested, the patch is nonetheless holding strong. I've even washed my engine which I'm sure put some temprature stupor on the patch simply however holding. I've probibly driven 2000kms and so far. So anyone that wants a good fix while you expect for a new egr tube, this is it.

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Jul tertiary, 2004

Spoon
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Not to bust anyones chimera on a patch set up but the final time I checked there is always vaccum on the egr tube even when the throttle is closed. This means if the patch fails and any of that putty-patch stuff breaks loose it could become sucked into the intake and the valves especially if your covering an open crevice. This could also ruin your whole day and and then some.

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crzyone
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I run across what your saying, but this stuff sets upwards pretty good and its thick. It sets upwards similar a rock and as far every bit I can tell it hasn't deteriorated i fleck. I would suspect it would fissure earlier anything.

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Jul 12th, 2004

crzyone
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For anyone that cares, notwithstanding belongings. If it holds until I get my TDC in there, perfect

No signs of cracking or leaking.

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Fixer Up
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From: Lanexa, Va
Registered: October 2001


When yous go around to replacing your EGR tube you don't have to pull your upper manifold. By at present yous accept silently challenged all the critics of your patch, and may just be waiting to see how long information technology lasts. Patently and simple Information technology is a patch until it breaks or yous can prepare it the right way. Information technology always seems to let go at the well-nigh in-opportune time, Murphy makes sure that happens. The choice is yours, just the potential for engine damage is at that place. What I was maxim is the upper manifold doesn't accept to be removed. I did accept to remove the common cold start tube, wire and connection as well equally the benefactor to become the bolts out. It is withal awful tight getting at the front 10 MM commodities. The bolts coming out were a lilliputian tough, merely getting it bolted back in place was a real challange. I think I expanded my vocabulary on that job a little before it was finished.
By the manner I tried JB Weld when my EGR tube cracked, but the heat was too keen. I finally replaced it with one off Ebay, and haven't had a trouble since. Skillful luck on the replacement, when you decide to exercise it.
JIm

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crzyone
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Heh.. I think I'yard waiting for it to crevice, just fear not, I keep more steely and a screwdriver for the dis cap just in case. I'm pulling the motor within the next few weeks for an engine swap, we'll encounter if it holds till then.

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WHEELIE
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Quick epoxy is a wonder. When it works information technology works great when it doesn't ...
For some other prepare... and for those of you lot with access to a TIG welder, I welded mine up. It was tough , sort of similar welding a soda pop tin can but it has held for a year.
Some other fix might be something I found at lowes/home depot? Gas line!! yep the kind for connecting a gas heater or stove. It looks about the right size and it is flexible.It should fit the hose ends and just braze it to either end afterwards you get it bent.
wheelie

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